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  1. Local_Mafuyu_Simp on

    I don’t really have a problem with these, I mean I’ve been wanting to hear the studio versions of the ot5 versions. I hope nevies aren’t too disdainful towards these recordings, I think it’s sensible of them to leave Soojin in the past as they rebrand, as sad as it is

    That being said, the mixing for the new vocals is so out of place and lower quality compared to the vocals from the originals. And some of the songs have errors (or at least strange choices) like the oh my god instrumental feels so stripped and the vocals up to the first chorus in hann aren’t in time with the instrumental. Idk these versions seem kinda rushed

    All good tho the next album will be a banger

  2. PotentialAd6368 on

    Is it me or Yuqi finally got an intro in a TT? Lion starts with her in this version right?

    Edit: mb, not a TT

  3. I think this is for the best. Hopefully it will *finally* put an end to the delulu. Cuz it gets tiring, every time they announce something people create these imaginary hopes for stuff the girls never promised and then get disappointed over nothing (it’s happening right now!).

    They are not erasing Soojin, she’ll always be that missing part of the asterisk, but they have to move on, it’s just life, shit happens, you continue, and this is them letting us know to do the same.

  4. Those are not “just” OT5 recordings. They tinkered with the instrumentals in pretty much all songs. It’s a lot less crowded…? Not sure if that is the right word. Oh my god certainly sounds different.

  5. is it just me.. or the soojin parts that got re-recorded just sound off a bit? like they dont sound 100% like the rest of the song? like someone just put a “sticker” on top of it. idk i cant put a finger on it but it just feels slightly off

  6. Neat_Arm_1214 on

    Probably an obvious question but is this release the 8th mini album they’ve been teasing or is that still to come?

  7. MircallaBlue on

    The sad thing is, I still prefer Soojins vocals on a lot of these tracks. I love i-dle, they’ve been my ult group since debut, but I think this album was a questionable decision, honestly. Personally, I don’t think I would ever choose to listen to these versions over the originals. I prefer Soojins vocals, and these versions honestly just have an undertone of sadness that’s hard to ignore.

    It was obvious to most people that Soojin was never coming back. It’s basically impossible, the korean public is so unforgiving. But I don’t think it was “delulu” that some people thought she might return someday, given that it was the members themselves who referenced her as often as they did. And the references got so much more explicit as time went on, too. If it was truly never going to happen, I do think it was a mistake for i-dle to reference her as often as they did. Most groups stop talking about former members for this reason, I guess.

  8. Having been very used to the original version this will be taking some time getting used to it.

    I will reserve final judgement until the tracks have “settled in” so to speak but right now a lot sound odd to me (probably due to me not being used to them).

    The verse immediately after the intro of “Oh my god” was just jarring to me on first listen. And the track feels somewhat….stripped? The instrumental feels much more barebone and I don’t really like that tbh considering that song lived by its soundscape. Lion felt a bit more natural though.

    Not sure if I would buy this album though, I already have the originals and this is not better in quality.

  9. atinyuqiverse on

    Why is nobody talking about Señorita basically being a new song?? 😭

  10. Caffeined2640 on

    I personally don’t like it. 

    I understand them rebranding and all that but I found this completely unnecessary and weird. 

    Seems to be causing quite a rift in the fandom 😔

  11. immortalizer on

    As someone who played in bands who had members come and go – I can speak to how important it can be to have a copy of the current versions of songs regardless of what fans think. Yeah, we spend the $$ but the artists are the ones that truly live & breathe writing the music. 

    For what it’s worth – I love both versions. OT6 and OT5, they’re both hitting the playlist. 

  12. Seems like they could have picked a song from the list of bsides and tried to plug it a bit more to see if they could make it a hit.

  13. More idle is still more idle, so its going into my rotation. The only wild delusional speculation i have is that they prob knew putting these songs on the actual mini album would garner some negativity. Separately releasing it digital only this way is better. Versions of these songs prob existed in some capacity before their 2022 tour anyways.

    I wish they threw in the official instrumentals alongside this tho. I love instrumental versions. Maybe next anniversary!

  14. MrGrumpyPanda on

    This is interesting. I actually enjoyed listening to an official version of the Ot5 versions of the songs. However, I do agree with many here that the production was uneven – some parts that were re-recorded could have been better edited because they feel tacked on (e.g., Minnie’s cover of soojin’s first prechorus verse on Lion stands out). The instrumentals don’t feel as high quality either – but I may be imagining this.

  15. BrightSignal8032 on

    Love how Soyeon retroactively fixed the line distrubution for shuhua 

  16. Emergency_Swan_7316 on

    I don’t understand why people kept on expecting Soojin to come back. The Korean public is very unforgiving when it comes to any scandals related to bullying (regardless of the strength of the evidence, which I agree is weak for Soojin). There has never been a case for a female Korean celebrity making a comeback after they’ve been implicated in a bullying scandal.

    Having Soojin be a part of the group again would destroy their career in Korea. After they worked so hard to revive their career with Tomboy, they would have never brought Soojin back. 

  17. SimplyTheGuest on

    Honestly don’t like this, and don’t see myself going back to these versions in the future. I’m not sure what the motivation was for releasing this, whether it was monetary or what. Just feels in poor taste to say let’s celebrate our anniversary by releasing our classic songs with Soojin removed. I might have felt differently if they were proper remixes.

  18. i’m just a little confused why they have Jae Bin Shin credited as an artist here as well? instead of just being in the credits

  19. I’m a bit disappointed with the lack of originality. No real changes but cutting out Soojin seems pointless.

    Is this really the only way to end all OT6 speculation because they can’t mention her and just release a clarifying statement?

  20. Jazzlike_Taste4332 on

    So is this just because they renegociated maybe the royalties and this is why they do this for the paymwnts or what is the reason

  21. MoomooBlinksOnce on

    While I can understand the business aspect of re-releasing songs after contract renewal, since the profit split has changed and Soojin is no longer a member of the group. As a fan, I don’t see the point of listening to any of those versions.

  22. I understand that it would take time to get used to the Soojin’s parts patching — just like how we need to get used to 1989 Taylor’s Version tracks but — removing the synths/piano instrumentals in “Oh my god”!? That’s true crime! Whoever it is I can’t forgive ’em! Even Soyeon!

  23. I also agree with someone here. They should’ve re-recorded potential and underrated b-sides that fans are sure would get good numbers if promoted well instead of these — which we can easily listen/watch from their concert/clips. They could’ve put:

    1. What’s in your house?
    2. Put It Straight
    3. Maybe
    4. Dahlia
    5. VILLAIN DIES
    5. Change
    6. Lucid / Paradise
    7. Eyes Roll
    8. Doll
    9. Bloom
    10. Tung-Tung – Empty

    and enhance/add a new twist to the productions instead of releasing the toned down, OT5 version of their older title tracks. I still don’t like the fact they removed the synths or piano or whatever it’s called from “Oh my god” instrumentals

  24. Well that’s disappointing. This is…. weak?

    Taylor Swift had legal reasons to do soundalike re-recordings, namely damaging Scooter Braun financially.

    What’s the motivation here? It’s not *interesting*. And Soyeon doesn’t usually do boring. The changes to the instrumentals range from imperceptible to actually bad.

    It *feels* like it was done for legal reasons.

    (Soyeon’s been hostile to the Korean memory-holing nonsense so I doubt she’d do it just to be a jerk or to appeal to jerks.)

    Maybe they get more royalties when they license these versions for synchronization (TV, commercials, etc.). I wouldn’t be surprised. If so, fine. That would explain why it’s nothing but title tracks, too.

  25. Commercial_Share_547 on

    I have no problem with ot5 versions (I assume it has to do with legal copyright stuff) but the songs seem kind of…..degraded(?)

    For example Minnie covering soojin in LION (prechorus and especially the outro) and Miyeon covering soojin’s verse in iM THE TREND….both sound a bit out-of-place

    +The instrumentals in general feel like they’re some sort of demo version to the original songs

  26. I don’t mind it. I watched the killing voice video a bit. They killed it on there.

  27. Morgan21590 on

    Gotta be honest, I can’t see myself reaching for these over the original versions.

    As for this whole rebrand, I really don’t see the point. But who knows what’s going on behind the scenes.

  28. why am i the only one that enjoys most of these versions? 😭 i’ll still listen to the originals, but i love that shuhua has more lines now. her prechorus line in place of soojin in ‘lion’ particularly stands out to me. i also love minnie’s lion outro as well. it’s definitely bittersweet, but i can’t bring myself to be too upset about it.

  29. VictoriaNiccals on

    I like to think that this was less some malicious HA IN YOUR FACE OT5 SOOJIN AIN’T COMING BACK STOP THE THEORIES (never mind that she isn’t, I doubt she’d even want to) move, since the girls keep mentioning her and Revenge was practically dedicated to her- and more some kind of legal copyright/ signing back with Cube/ contract renegotiations thing. I listened to the songs this once, I have no reason to stream them again lmao.

  30. The synth starts like 2 seconds too late on the opening of Oh My God and the piano is missing during the first verse and Soyeons rap. Shuhuas replacement section for Soojin is fine but it doesn’t comprare to the original tbh.

  31. StrifeRaider on

    This is actually sad to see ._. I doubt it was their intention but it just feels like Soojin is being erased from the groups history.

  32. Apollo72521 on

    at the very least it’s nice to have some of their older songs in a higher audio quality than the original releases, but I’m more excited about the new music.

    can’t help but be sad about the Soojin erasure, but I understand why from a business standpoint, and glad the rumors can be put to rest.

  33. SilverMind9 on

    I really appreciate the girls and all the effort they put into their work.
    I’m not sure what the goal of this rebrand is, but these rerecordings feel a bit off. The originals were carefully produced, with the vocals mixed in a way that allowed everyone’s voices to blend well. Over time, their voices have naturally matured and changed very slightly, which is expected. However, these new versions come across as somewhat rushed. Some parts even sounded low quality, and in “HANN,” the instrumental felt muffled or hollow.

  34. So. Broader implications and audio specifics aside, here’s my take on it. I understand WHY this album was made, I think. I don’t think this is some intentional knife twist for Soojin or a royalty money scheme. The fact of the matter is that since ever since 2022, all these songs have been performed OT5. Every concert and stage and show performance of any of these has been OT5. So it logically follows that we have a digital recording of what the songs are performed like now. I understand the quality criticism and that some of the Shu inserts for the re-record sound off audio quality wise, and some of the mixing doesn’t seem as thoughtful. But at least as far as WHY the album was made, I understand it and don’t have a problem with it.

  35. justanotherkpoppie on

    I wish they’d gone all out and done proper remixes rather than these empty instrumentals 😕 I wanted that EDM LATATA remix 😪

  36. Far_Marsupial6303 on

    The only comfort I have is that this surely isn’t a one-sided project, heartbreaking as it is.

    Soojin, I’ll always hear your beautiful voice in my heart!

  37. Economy-Can1295 on

    This rebrand feels like they’re planning their own downfall in a way for some reason.
    As an ex-nevie (lost interest after I Feel), it feels like a stab in the back for Soojin in some way. 

    When it comes to the music, the mixing is just bad in these. Imo, their music quality keeps going down and I feel like they’re losing their own essence slowly but surely. They went from musical masterpieces like HANN (Alone) and the whole I burn album to ‘I cook cream soup, taste is coco loco. want me your wife but she is mm mmm mm” and more horrible nonsensical lyrics.  It’s a sad thing to witness as someone who ulted them for about 4 years and loved them dearly.

    I understand my opinion probably is an unpopular one since they’ve kept gaining many fans since TOMBOY era, but it seems like they’d rather focus on gaining fame and money by doing what everyone else is doing in the industry now (2min songs with no musical or lyrical complexity whatsover) than making sure their old fans stay by making the type of amazing old music they used to do. That’s my 2 cents on it, I might get downvoted like crazy because it’s what fans do when someone doesn’t like what their favs are doing but yeah, I stand by what I said.

  38. I’m not sure if this is a hot take, but I think this release is more of another hint of what’s coming on the 19th rather than something to fulfill our EP expectations. In addition to everything else they’ve alluded to yesterday, this album’s titles are all trying to say “we are i-dle, which means OT5.” The follow up is to then ask ourselves, what the May 19th album means. “‘i-dle is for (G)'” is making me think of the 5 surrounding the coffin marked with (G), which was also missing during their ( )i-DLE tour, and mentioned during the Revenge epilogue of “Case File (G).” I’d like to also emphasize that yesterday’s teaser with the coffin is akin to a ritual and not a funeral.

  39. is everything rerecorded? like the instrumentals too? or were just soojins lines distributed and only those rerecorded?

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